It Didn’t Take Long, Did It? Part II


Tonight, the formerly Christian Episcopal Church USA, the American member of the Anglican Communion, fell completely off the rails by approving “gay marriage”.   Ceremonies will be available sometime after 1 November, and gender-based language such as husband and wife will be removed from the service.  There is an opt-out for priests who decline to perform gay nuptials, and conservative bishops (if any are left) may decline for their entire dioceses.

Disheartening as it may be, nobody has taken the ECUSA seriously for nearly two generations. It’s not the church of George Washington or the country’s founding fathers. Entire dioceses have been in open revolt, and 18% of its members have left in just the past decade. While it was busy adopting the spirit of the age, the ECUSA  seems to have stopped filling people with the Holy Spirit. (-JS)

Excerpt: “On the eve of the historic vote, Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, leader of the worldwide Anglican Communion that overseas the Episcopal Church, expressed “deep concern about the stress for the Anglican Communion” by changing “the definition of marriage in the canons so that any reference to marriage as between a man and a woman is removed.”

via Episcopalians vote to allow gay marriage in churches.

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5 thoughts on “It Didn’t Take Long, Did It? Part II

  1. Our pastor keeps bringing up things like this. Not too long ago, he brought up how people are talking about forcing churches to accept the warped ideology of homosexuality or get shut down. “And you say, “Whatever.” Well, one day there won’t be any room for “whatevers,” he said. Which has me wondering something; if and when the Liberals ever got the full power to enforce complete line-up with the party line, would they take the Bolshevik approach and just shut down as many churches as possible and make severe restrictions on religious worship, or take the Nazi approach and use the churches as handy tools to preach the Great Leftist agenda from (annihilating those naughty assemblies who just won’t do what Big Brother tells them to, of course)?
    I’m favoring the latter. For one thing, I don’t think they’d want to risk pushing us to the brink of out-and-out revolution by going to such an extreme as the first example. It would make too much resistance. Some conservative states are already threatening secession. For another, they would see some churches as perfect hands of propaganda, like Hitler did. Of course,I’ve heard that the Nazis were planning to abolish the churches, but the regime ended before they got around to it. I guess they thought the churches had served their purpose and needed to go. Anyway, it’s an interesting question.

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    • I believe that that the Nazis largely left the churches alone. Having spoken to several older Germans, many viewed Hitler’s rise positively, and looked upon the early years of NSDAP government as a golden age of economic revival, full employment, and restoration of national pride. That view was not universal amongst all German citizens, of course, but the churches were largely silent during those early years. By the time politics took a more ugly turn, it was too late to speak up and people were cowed by fear.

      I believe it was Lyndon Johnson who in the 1950s pushed for the IRS rule that stripped churches of their right to advocate political (and social) positions by threatening their tax exemptions. The precedent has already been set. I agree that there is a leftist agenda, but I disagree about any revolution. If there was to be one, it would have happened already. The truth is that the vast majority of American people voice sympathy with liberal policies which are antithetical to Christian teaching, and something under half are quite apathetic or outright hostile to religious influence in the social arena. There will be no revolution, only complete societal collapse and, God willing, a rebirth. This is why I respect the Russians. Their recent history is a case of “been there, done that”, and Americans can learn much from their experience of removing God from the public sphere and elevating the state to the position of God. Their government tried very hard to remove God from society for most of the 20th Century, but modern Russia, which emerged in 1991, found itself in a complete moral mess which people now realize it will take generations to recover from.

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      • A somewhat more heartening report I am hearing is that after the court’s Obergefell (hope I spelt that right) decision, more people are concerned about religious liberty than there was before. I am a Missourian, and we come from hard-core Conservative stock. Perhaps not a violent uprising would occur, but there would certainly be some unrest if they tried anything drastic around here.

  2. It’s one thing to be concerned about religious liberty, but does everybody in America agree on what that means? It took the USA approximately 75-100 years to evolve into a post-Christian society dominated largely by a cultural elite that inhabits both coasts. The evolution long ago spread to and infected even the ruritanian heartland of the USA. A large segment of American youth has no religious affiliation, and at least two or three generations has grown to maturity with very weak, or no spiritual formation at all. It should come as no surprise to anyone that we now live in a secular, post-Christian country with lawmakers, academics, with much of the population apathetic, ambivalent, or outright hostile to matters involving religion in general, and Christianity in particular. We have both lived long enough to see religion ridiculed and marginalized in the media, and ignored and declared irrelevant by the public and its private and civil institutions. The churches, and that includes the institutions of the Jews, have not done themselves any favors by rolling over and accepting all previous encroachments on religious freedom, as well as remaining silent while abuses, immorality and criminal conduct proceeded unchecked, ignored or enabled by the spiritual leadership of their respective organizations.

    The last several decades has seen the beginning of a movement to redefine Freedom of Religion into Freedom to Worship which is an inferior right. What that really means is that government, and a large part of America, now condescends to allow everyone to worship in the cult of their choice so long as they keep their beliefs to themselves, and don’t drag their spirituality and religious doctrine outside of their private homes and temples. That’s enforced secularism at its worst. I don’t expect too much in the way of unrest from the aging conservative population in the heartland which can’t convince its own children to follow the conservative doctrine of many of the region’s churches, much less join them and actually attend the services.

    What I think will happen is something along the lines of what came to pass in Germany during the 1930’s. For a long time nobody said anything. When it came time to say something, it was too late, and few people want to volunteer to become martyrs. Francis George, the former Roman Catholic archbishop of Chicago, said a few years ago that he expects to die in his own bed. He expects that his successor will die in prison. His successor will die a martyr in the public square. The church will then pick up the shards of a ruined civilization and rebuild it as has happened so many times before. We can only ask for God’s help in maintaining Christ’s teaching, and our Holy Tradition. I’m not optimistic at all, and I expect the future will see many new martyrs, and a return to the catacombs.

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  3. I completely agree. I see the patterns that have led to every totalitarian regime, and I know exactly who the first ones to suffer from it will be. First embraced, then ignored, then demonized, then persecuted. That is what the story of Christianity in our country is coming to.

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